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zone. among targets hit, minamisariku's compouminamisarg compound in tripoli. >> there's also a command and control facility that we are certain is a command and control facility and we have multiple means that tell us that. and that's the facility that was attacked. >> nbc's jim maceda joins us live from the libyan capital of tripoli. jim, what's happening on the ground there? >> reporter: well, tamron, despite this pullback of forces across the western -- the eastern part of the country, i should say in that benghazi area, gadhafi's forces have been on the attack elsewhere, especially in misratah, a rebel-held city in the west in which the u.n. resolution requires gadhafi to pull back from. forces were hit by air strikes
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outside of misrata yesterday. today, however, reports they're back inside with tanks and snipers, shooting at people, at least nine according to our latest figures, killed today. and then we understand that those very same troops have changed out of their uniforms, into street clothes, looking like armed civilians. then they invited hundreds of other civilians to join, making it impossible for the coalition planes to strike. now, tamron, this may be a first sign of what gadhafi plans to use as a military strategy, going forward. otherwise, gadhafi forces, well, took a beating in benghazi yesterday. they've pulled back, as you suggested, to ajdabiya, just to give you an idea, that's close to 80 miles of retreat in just two days. >> jim maceda, with latest on the ground in libya. as we wait for president's obama news conference in chile, let's
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bring in chris matthews, host of msnbc's "hardball." the president to talk about latin america, the economy, he may take one question and have a brief statement but it's the balancing act, why he is no latin america. but obviously acknowledging the major news in libya. >> well, one question's going to one heck of an answer. because i want to know, a lot of people want to know what are we doing in libya? are we going in there to kill gadhafi? if not, what is the plan for gadhafi? what is he to do? if you were gadhafi what would you do? we're going in there with a so-called no-fly zone but limited potential for fire power. going after his command and control center, which is basically him. what is he to do? are we offering him an escape out of country? what end game are we forcing him to. i wish i knew this. war is politics by other means what are the politics of this war? certainly in the short run it's
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to protect lives of people who would be killed in a slaughter of civil yaians an in benghazi. i hope the american people keep asking that, what are we trying to accomplish here. the news reporting has been unsatisfactory in that regard. i don't know if you are even asking the right questions. what do we want to do with gadhafi? what do we want gadhafi to do with gadhafi to end this? it seems it's not going to end until he's gone. therefore, how are we going to get to that point? >> it's interesting. we were on together friday when this news broke and we heard briefly from the president regarding this campaign that we were expecting. i was in texas this weekend, a red state as you know, the kind of state that supports the military. i cannot tell you how many people said what is the point? wanting to hear more from this president, the administration, we thought we might get more answers, you and i, on sunday, some of the sunday morning programs. that did not happen. mike mullen, chairman of the
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joint chiefs, could not give an honest answer to, what do we want to do with gadhafi, he's not allowed to. what is our mission? our soldiers, our flyers, people manning the tomahawk stations ought to know what they're doing. what are we trying to accomplish with regards to gadhafi? if it's to unseat him, there are ways to do that, you can kill him, get him to quit, whatever, you can get him to be overthrown. maybe one way is to ask him to leave. and then we have to give him a place to go to or somebody has to have a place to go, maybe it's chavez in venezuela. move this along. americans don't like long wars. we know that. if this goes on and on, sooner or later the arabs are going take the other side in all probability, because there will be civilian casualties inflicted by the allied sources. it will happen. i said friday night, you can predict a lot of this. what's happened so far, you could predict. it's headed to a larger war. >> to your point, regarding other arab nations we saw a hint of that with the arab league
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over the weekend getting antsy when there were unconfirmed reports of civilian casualties on the ground. i want to talk about the politics as you point out here, in the states. speaker boehner, maxine waters, dennis ckusinich, criticizing te president and his statement, speaker boehner said the president is commander and chief but the administration has a responsibility to define what the mission in libya is. better explain what america's role is in achieving the mission. your response to boehner and others. >> two types of criticism, one from the left, people are an anti-war and i share that view. in berkeley, cambridge, massachusetts, i know their point of view, they're against military actions overseas, generally. the other group of republicans who want to see procedure here, they want to see the president, any president, check with the congress before inflicting
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military damage on some other country. that's a reasonable criticism. i mean i would be offering an act of criticism myself in any situation. we have a constitution in this country. you don't start shooting at people in other countries because you have a reason you can't quite explain. i think you are to explain it. you have to run it through the process and at least consult on why you're doing it. that wasn't done apparently. >> why do you believe that wasn't done? >> because we're part of a pack, we're joined with the united nations on the authority of the -- on the say so of the arab league. it's not being done the normal way, which is americans decide they want to go to war. here the u.n. decided it was going to go to war, we're part of that, we're going with them. reminds me of korea, again, as we went in as a police, and lost so many. what a war that united states that was authorized by the united nations and the soviets didn't show up. in this case they abstained as
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the chinese, the nonpermits member, germany. here we are in a war, united nations war, and we say, according to our military foeshg we're going to play a less and less role as the days go on. we'll see. i'm waiting to see arab fighter planes in the skies over libya. i'm waiting to see the arab faces waving out the window of those planes bombing iraq -- i mean libya. all i'm saying, american, europeans, french, brits and i'm, and i'm wondering whether it's going to look any different than any other western war against the arabs. looks like the same war to me so far. >> we're waiting on more involvement perhaps from qatar. you point out this is an effort that involves our allies but the bottom line, it's led by the united states and its unique capabilities. while this is a team effort, we know who is leading wait here, and that requires, according to so many, yourself, a better explanation from our lead.
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>> i think so. your question answers it self-. . american people have a right to know why they're at war. >> i want to play real quickic congressman dennis kusinich was on, he hit on something friday regarding the constitution at of the effort or this campaign. what congressman ckusinich said two hours ago. >> the president is acting outside of the authority of the constitution. there is no question about that whatsoever. this is a copy of the constitution of the united states. a plain reading of article i, section 8, says, only congress has the power to declare war. >> and congressman kusinich, chris, is not alone here in this concern regarding the constitution and its air campaign. >> well, right. there's two complaints. one from the left, generally anti-war, and i'm often in their company, and the other's from the opposition, republicans, a fair complaint. it should be issued by the
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democrats as well as republicans. we have a constitution, as congressman kusinich points out. requires at least consultation if it is a war, it should be declared. and that means congress has to do, it they haven't been asked to do. you have to wonder what's go on with the constitution i understand why we went into this, secretary of state clinton, her concern we not have another rwanda that we had in the clinton administration where we awe lot of people killed civilians, one a blood thirsty government who slaughters people. i understand the moral argument for the war but there has to be a process as well. >> the counter to that moral argument brought up by others who say, where is the line? we are seeing an uptick in yemen, we know what's happening in bahrain. you are seeing innocence civilians targeted by the government. do you get involved -- >> i don't agree with that. i disagree with lugar.
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that means we have to go everywhere, if we go anywhere. i hear that at home, it's called the perfect is the enemy of the good. you can do it all so you do what you can. you go into situations where you can do the right things because there are many areas you can't because there are too many alliances. where you have a free hand, you do something good. i don't believe you do anything good because you can't do everything good. that's an argument for doing nothing ever. >> i don't want to fight anyone else's case, certainly not against you, but the point be, chris, the question still remains, we have general mccaffrey and colonel jacobs with us, people are asking why libya? what is the interest in libya, if the core argument is to protect the people? that question can be applied to bahrain, just one simple example of images we're seeing there. chris? >> well, i agree. i agree with the inconsistency.
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but then again it's often the case. a lot of parts of the world where dig ta dictators are killing people. it's a question of how much of a reach does the united states have? and where we can move with the friend. . . i personally have given a chons, would rather be in the fact than be the cowboy. i have a simple rule, which will bother a lot of people, when the french are with you, you know you are right. >> interesting rule. ke colonel jack jacobs. you're not convinced. we are leading this. the white house officials are saying, very, very successful. no matter how we try to strategize and say, others are leading the way, it's, again, falling on the shoulders of the united states. >> well, yeah, we have assumed command of an operation we decide to do and negotiated strongly with the united nations particularly the chinese and the russian who are opposed to any
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involvement in libya. a couple of weeks ago, surprisingly then, decided to abstain from vote on resolution 1973, authorizing action in libya. why did they do that? we talked them into it, basically, which is very difficult to do it. so it took a lot of diplomatic effort to get them more or less out of the way. there was a polite fiction on the very first day of the attacks that in fact the french were leading and there were lots of pictures of french attack planes and so on. in fact they did participate in attacking surface-to-air missile sites. but at end of the day it's an american operation. to talk about it's being nato, it means the united states will be heavily involved everybody as it should, if you make a military operation anywhere. >> general mccaffrey, i want to get you in on that. we are hearing from secretary gates and admiral mike mull than we are not in this for the long
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haul and that in the next days we will see a transition where others will take the lead. what do you make of that time line and those words? >> well, let's me add something to chris' point, he talked about process. what made me extremely uncomfortable the president going to latin america. secretary gates going to russia, and leaving admiral mullen to explain to the country on multiple tv interviews sunday why we were attacking another country with u.s. military power. you know, that was inappropriate. the president if he -- the commander in chief decided to go to war should have personally gone to the person american people and stayed to defend his policy. the fact it was inconsistent with travel plans strikes me as diminishing the importance of what we've done here. secretary gates, headed to russia. for god's sake, if we're going to conduct military operations in the arab world these people should be here in the national command center doing their job.
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that is an inappropriate policy answer. now you've got political kickback out of congress wanting to know who's going to explain to them what's happening. that should not be general carter hamm on a television interview explain what we're doing in the middle east. >> that's who we saw in the last few hours the face of the explanation, giving us some answers to the questions. chris, general mccaffrey, kerj ja colonel jacobs. we'll have more news. time for the "your business" entrepreneur of the week. brendan and john were beach volleyball player whose turns their passion into a year round activity. they created the sand box in mystic, connecticut, the only indoor volleyball facility in new england. attracting plays from around the region to this unique concept.
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so you can be good to the last drop. welcome back, everyone everybody to "news nation." we are waiting to hear from president obama. he's holding a joint news conference with the pez of chile. the president is expected to answer maybe one or two question. we're getting two-minute warning. chris, i want to pick up on something general mccaffrey said before going to the break about the face of the campaign.
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you have general hamm speaking this morning and admiral mike mullen all over the weekend shows. what do you make of the discussion we were having? >> it's odd to put the pointed chairman of the join chiefs, who is nonpolitical by nature of his position. he's a uniformed servicemen, obeying orders to try to explain the orders. the orders were given by the president. the point i made, one good thing about this, we are in the pack. you always have the british, that means they're loyal to us, that's the special relationship. when the french are with you, there must be some keen self-interest on the part of the western pows in this action, in other words, it's relatively safe and it's clearly in their interest. whereas that wasn't clear when we went into iraq at all. there's something here i might be missing. why is there unity on this? is there the evil of gadhafi or he's deranged or he's been marginalized as a figure, or the
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proximity to europe that libya is so close to oourp they're taking a profound interest here they wouldn't take into a country that's further away, like iraq. i think the geography has something to do with this. >> waiting on president obama and pinera. >> more about the comment general mccaffrey made. a couple of weeks before we started shooting up in libya, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff was publicly obviously, against the use of military force in libya along with secretary of defense and it was clear both of them had recommended the president not do it. >> president obama and chile's president sebastian pinera walking to the podium. let's listen in. [ speaking foreign language ] >> translator: first we will hear his excellency, mr. pinera.
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good afternoon, everyone. firstly, i would like to welcome a friend of chile and a person of friends, like president obama. i think that his visit, precedent, is very important and as a significance for chile. it's the first time in more than 20 years that a president of the united states visits our country. of course, we have had several multilateral summits of world leaders. this visit coincides with the celebration of 30 years of the alliance for progress that was announced by president kennedy at the beginning of the '60s. we have had with president obama a very open, frank, and fruitful
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conversation and we have been able to subscribe many agreements of different nature, but they do have something in common, to contribute to a better life and better quality of life for our people, like perfect the free trade of the united states, education, and teaching, as it would make chile a bilingual country. making efficient use of energies and clean energies in particular. renewable energies, which chile has enormous potential. and also collaboration in research, technologies, and training for our engineers and technicians in nuclear energy. but i want to be very clear and adamant. chile is not going to bill, nor
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is it planning to build, any nuclear power plants during our government, during our administration. the idea of this agreement is that we may understand much better nuclear technologies, to be able to train our engineers and technicians so that in the future we may make more ninformd decisions, more intelligent decisions. >> we are listening to chile's president sebastian pinera welcome the president to santiago, chile. the focus of the visit was to -- chris matthews is with me -- was to talk about the economy, the relationship with latin america, and the united states. lofty goals, the president has outlined regarding acknowledging this country's evolution in democracy and the growing relationship with the economy. we know a very valuable of the
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segment of the world to the united states. but as we wait, chris, the hot-button issue, when we would like to hear, what people are watching, certainly want to hear on this day, comments the president could make regarding libya and what, if any, questions he might receive on what's happening in libya right now. >> well, that's right. i think the first question from the first american correspondent to be given the opportunity to be will libya, perhaps chuck todd. i do think there will be follow-ups to that. face it, a war's more important than anything else when a war's on. as long as they have the president and as long as he's willing to take the questions of the war, he'll have to answer them. >> talk about the politics regarding this. politico has a great article, in their words, obama has taken his biggest foreign policy risk to date at a time when caution is increasingly defining his domestic jane. they're saying it's a high
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risk/high ereward strategy. six presidents have talked about getting rid of gadhafi, but this president, if gadhafi is ousted, can say he acted and was successful this effort. high risk/high gain is what they're calling it, chris. >> yes. of course that would be true if it happens in a week or so. but the high risk and the high loss, of course, would be if he survives and becomes something of a, you know, david against goliath. what happens if, after a week or two of bombing by the allies, the french, british, and the american tomahawks, taking cruise missiles and everything elsing thrown at him, he's still there. if he's still there, who begins to root for him then? you know as well as i do, americans don't like long wars. we like short, quick, wars. that's why americans liked what reagan did, they liked grenada, panama under bush, quickies. we're an a.d.d. country, we do
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not like being bog down in a third world country where becomes morally murky who the good guy is. >> men and women losing their lives when it's not a clear mission that benefits or greatly pen benefits the country to benefit the a.d.d. we saw the missiles going into misrata and jim maceda saying we saw gadhafi's supporters retreat but according to his reporting they're back in the area and changing out of uniform into civilian clothing, attacking people so they may, and i'll use this, scatter like roaches when you turn the lights on but go back in. >> i mean, sort of obvious tactic. that armor's just dead meat sitting out in the middle of the desert with the u.s. air force overhead and marine air. they had to get into the populated areas. they'll go back into tripoli. they were trying to get into benghazi when in the nick of time in comes u.s. if-16, f-15
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aircraft and the french, and bombs them. yeah, now the question is, it's not just benghazi. it's -- there's foremajor beleaguers cities that the rebels held, and what are we going to do about it? how do we get them out of the 2 million people of tripoli? the rhetoric out of admiral mullen was, mike only orderers were protect the population. >> those are the orders. but colonel jacobs, before we go back to chile and listen in, it's a confuse order who the president said early gadhafi no longer had the confidence of his people and thhe needed to leave. if he happens to be somewhere where there are surface-to-air missiles and he happens to get hit, so be it. >> of course he's nuts. he'd be nuts to be in his xhoun compound any time. at end of the day, if we maintain what we've got now, we're going to wind up with a
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bit of rebels in the east and gadhafi in power still in the rest of the place. the interesting thing is that, even if gadhafi is routed i don't think there as much reward the president's going to think the he's going to get. it's only one country. there's a mess everywhere else. >> we'll listen in to the president of chile. let's listen. >> translator: massive destruction weapons and nuclear weapons. i was talking with president obama so far as avoiding this nuclear menace. but it's not only that a few countries in the world will have nuclear weapons and others not, but to have a world without weapons of mass destruction. this is the common goal. we share with president obama and with all 0 the men and women of goodwill throughout the world. president obama, i have read, with great attention, your words
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in al qaeda, egypt, where you proposed a new beginning in the relations between the united states and the islam word. and to also, your words, where you raised a new commitment, a new promise, new commitment with the subsaharan african world. today, that the winds saw freedom of democracy, participation and protection of human rights are stronger than ever. even in those countries that have never -- had not existed for many years, this is a great opportunity to have new alliance between the united states and the latin american countries. that is why i would like to tell you that latin america is more prepared than ever today. so as to leave poverty and underdevelopment behind that have been with fouus for 200 ye and to take the adventure of the
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future of democracy, of freedom, of development of equal of opportunities, that we may have the continent, as we have dreamt it always, from alaska, from the pacific to the atlantic ocean, that will become land of freedom of opportunities, of progress, but also a land of fairness and camaraderie, as dreamt by the founding fathers of that great nation like the united states, like the case of jefferson, like lincoln, but also like san martin from our continent. the question is straightforward one, a simple one, it's our challenge, it's our mission, the mission of the generation of the bicentennial because if it's not now, then when? ? if we are not ones, who? president obama, we are listening with great attention, with great interest, the message you will deliver in a few hours
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from the cultural center to latin america and the whole world. thank you very much. we thank the words of the president of the republic of chile, mr. pinera. now we will hear the president of the united states, his excellency, mr. barack obama. >> thank you very much, president pinera. i want to, first of all, extent my greetings to the people of chile, and i'm so grateful for not only the generous words but the outstanding hospitality being shown to me, as well as my family. i want to begin today by noting that president pinera and i discussed some urgent events unfolding around the world. together, with our partners, the united states is taking military action to enforce u.n. security
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council resolution 1973 and protect the libyan people. across the region we believe that the legitimate aspirations of people must be met, and that violence against civilians is not the answer. across the pacific everybody both chile and the united states are supporting the japanese people as they recover from the catastrophic earthquake and tsunami, and address the situation in their damaged nuclear facility. these events remain us that in our interconnected world, the security and prosperity of nations and peoples are intertwined as never before. and no region is more closely linked than the united states and latin america. here in the americas, one of our closest and strongest partners is chile. chile's one of the great success stories of this region. it's built a robust democracy.
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it's been one of the most open and fastest growing economies in the world. the spirit and resilience of the chilean people, especially after last year's earthquake, have inspired people across the globe. in my speech this afternoon, i look forward to paying tribute to chile's progress and the lessons it offer as america forges a new era of partnership across the americas. i was proud to welcome president pinera to washington last year for our nuclear security summit. mr. president, i want to commend you on your decisive leadership in these first few months of office and the first year of office, a time that's been obviously very difficult and has tested the people of chile. i want to thank you for the focus and energy that you've brought to the partnership between our two countries which we have strengthened today. we're moving ahead with efforts to expand trade and investment
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as the president mentioned. under our existing trade agreement, between the united states and chile, trade has more than doubled, creating new jobs and opportunities in both countries. i believe, and president pinera believes, there's more we can do to expand our economic cooperation. so today we recommitted ourselves to fully implementing our free trade agreement, to include protections of intellectual property so our businesses can innovate and stay competitive. we agreed to build on the progress we're making towards a trans-pacific partnership. so we can seize the full potential of trade in the asia pacific, specially for small and medium businesses. it's my hope that along with our other partners we can reach an agreement on the framework for the tpp by the end of this year, an agreement that can serve as a model for the 21st century. we're expanding the clean energy partnerships key to creating green jobs and creating climate
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change. as a member of the energy and climate partnership for the americas that i proposed, chile is already sharing its expertise with solar with the region. i want to commend president pinera for agreeing to take another step, hosting a new center to address glacier melt in the andes. in addition, new u.s.-chile energy business council will encourage collaborations between our companies in areas like energy efficiency and renewable technologies. our governments have agreed to share our experience in dealing with natural disasters, an area where chile has enormous expertise and which is critical to recovery and economic reconstruction. the president i discussed our shared commitment to expanding educational among our students who can bring our countries even closer. in my speech today i'll announce a new initiative to increase student exchanges between the united states and latin america,
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including chile. even as we deepen cooperation between our two countries, i want to take this community to commend chile for the leadership role that it's increasingly playing across the americas. chile's a vital contributor to the united states mission in haiti where we agree that yesterday's election is an opportunity to accelerate recovery and reconstruction efforts, and the chilean legislature recently passed strong legislation to combat the scourge of human trafficking. under president pinera's leadership, chile's taking a new step today. mr. president, i want to thank you for offering to share chile's security expertise with central american nations as they fight back against criminal gangs and narco traffickers. i'm pleased our two governments will be working together to promote development in the americas. at the same time, chile's assuming mortgae of a leadershi role beyond the americas. chile took the bold step of giving up its stockpile of highly enriched uranium.
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chile's the first latin american nation to join a new international effort to strengthen civil society groups that are under threat. and as a member of the u.n. human rights council, chile's joined with us in standing up against human rights abuses in iran and in libya. in short, mr. president, today, we have prompt again when the united states and chile work together, in a spirit of mutual interests and mutual respect, it's not only good for the peoples of our nations, i believe it's good for the region and good for the world. and i'm confident that our partnership will only grow stronger in the years to come. i'm very much grateful for the wonderful hospitality that you're showing me and my delegation. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> translator: president of the united states, now we will proceed to the questions from
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the media. we remind you that only three questions will be allowed and they have been decided on, one from chile, one from international. the first question is, on behalf of the association of journalist s president pinera, president obama, good yavt noon. president obama, you have emphasized and highlighted economic management of chile, the leadership in the region, those were your words and even the transitioning of democracy in the difficult years of the '90's however in chile, there are open wounds of the dictatorship of general pinoche. in that sense, leaders, political leaders, leaders of the world, of human rights, even mps, the son of the murdered foreign minister said many wounds have to do with the
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united states. i ask you, justice is investigating cases, the death of the president, in that new speech that you will announce, do you include that the u.s. is willing to collaborate with those judicial investigations even that the united states is willing to ask for forgiveness for what it did in those very difficult years in the '70s in chile? >> well, the specific question how we can work with the chilean government, any requests that are made about chile to obtain more information about the past is something that we will certainly consider and we would like to cooperate. i think it's very important for all of us to know our history. and obviously, the history of relations between the united
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states and latin america have, at times, been extremely rocky. and have, at times, been difficult. a think it's important, though, for us, even as we understand our history, and gain clarity about our history, we're not trapped by our history. and the fact of the matter is, is that over the last two decades we've seen extraordinary progress here in chile and that has not been impeded by the united states, but in fact, has been fully supported by the united states. so i can't speak to all of the policies of the past. i can speak to the president of the future. as president of the united states i know what our firm commitment to democracy, our firm commitment to eradicating poverty, are full commitments to broad-based and socially
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inclusive development, our full support of the robust, open markets have that developed in chile and the work that president pinera and his predecessor have done in order to transform the economic situation here, those are all things that the united states strongly supports. and so, again, it's important for us to learn from our history, to understand our history, but not be trapped by it, because we've got a lot of challenges now and even more importantly, we have challenges in the future that we have to attend to. >> thank you, mr. president. sir, how do you square our position that colonel gadhafi
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has -- if colonel gadhafi's killing his own people, is it permissible to let him stay in power? and if i may add, do you have any regrets about undertaking this mission while you're on foreign soil? and do you i have the support of the arab people in this yet? >> first of all, i think i'm going to embarrass jim by let'sing everyone know that jim's mother's chilean and so this is a little bit of a homecoming. you were born in chile. >> yes, sir. i like to beer. >> fantastic. i thought everybody should know that. and also, i think that for all of the chilean press, you don't need to take jim's example by asking three questions, pretending it's one.
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>> one subject, sir. >> first of all, i think it's very easy to square our military actions and our stated policies. our military action is in support of an international mandate from the security council that specifically focuses on the humanitarian threat posed by colonel gadhafi to his people, not only was he carrying out murders of civilians, but he threatened more. said specifically, we will show no mercy to people who lived in benghazi. and in the face of that, the international community rallied and said, we have to stop any potential atrocitiesen side of libya and provided a broad mandate to accomplish that
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specific task. as part of that international coalition, i authorized the united states military to work with our international partners to fulfill that mandate. now, i also have stated that it is u.s. policy that gadhafi needs to go. we have got a wide range of tools in addition to our military efforts to support that policy. we were very rapid in initiating unilateral sanctions and helping to mobilize international sanctions against the gadhafi regime. we froze assets that gadhafi might have used to further empower himself and prchb weapus or hire mercenaries against the libyan people.
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that has created one of the most powerful international consensuses around the isolation of mr. gadhafi. and we will continue to pursue those. but when it comes to our military action we are doing so in support of u.n. security resolution 1973. that specifically talks about humanitarian efforts, and we are going to make sure that we stick to that mandate. i think it's also important, since we're on the topic, that i have consistently emphasized that because we're working with international partners, after the initial thrust that has disabled gadhafi's air defenses, limits his ability to threaten large population centers leak benghazi, that there's going to be a transition taking place in which we have a range of coalition partners, the europeans, members of the arab league who will then be
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participating in establishing a no-fly zone. there's going to be a transition taking place in which we are one of the partners among many who will ensure that the no-fly zone is enforces and the humanitarian protection that needs to be provided continues to be in place. with respect to initiating this action while i was abroad, keep in mine we are working on very short time frames. and we had done all of the work, and it was a matter of seeing how gadhafi would react to the warning that i issued on friday. he, despite words to the contrary, was continuing to act aggressively towards his civilians, after consultation with our allies. we decided to move forward. and it was a matter of me directing secretary of defense gates and admiral mullen that
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the plan that had been developed in great detail extensively prior to my departure was put into place. jim, i've forgotten if there were any other elements of that question but i've tried to be as thorough as possible. >> arab support, sir. >> look, the arab league specifically called for a no-fly zone before we went to the united nations and that was an important element in the overall campaign. >> will they be part of the mission? >> absolutely. we are in consultations as we speak. as i said, there are different phases to the campaign. the initial campaign, we took a larger role because we've got some unique capabilities. our object to take out, for example, gadhafi's air defense systems, are much more significant than some of our other partners. what that does, it creates space, shapes the environment in which a no-fly zone can be effective. it was important to make sure that we got in there quickly so
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that whatever advances were being made on benghazi could be halted, and we could send a clear message to gadhafi that he needed to start pulling his troops back. now, keep in mind, we've only been in this process for two days now. and so, we are continuing to evaluate situation on the ground. i know the pentagon and our defense department will be briefing you extensively, as this proceeds. but the core principle that has to be upheld here is that, when the entire international community, almost unanimously, says that there is a potential humanitarian crisis about to take place, that a leader who has lost legitimacy decides to turn his military on his own people that we can't simply stand by with empty words, that we have to take some sort of
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action. i think it's also important to note that the way that the u.s. took leadership and managed this process ensures international legitimacy and ensures that our partners, members of the international coalition, are bearing the burden of following through on mission as well because, as you know, in the past there have been times the united states acted unilaterally or did not have full international support. and as a consequence, typically, it united states the united states military that ended up bearing the entire burden. the last point i'll make on this, i could not be prouder in which the manner in which the u.s. military has performed over the last several days. and it's a testament to the men and women in uniform who, when given a mission, they execute and do an outstanding job. but, obviously, our military's
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already very stretched and carries large burdens all around the world. wherever possible, for us to get international cooperation, not just in terms of word but was in planes and resources and pilots that is something we should actively seek and embrace because it relieves the burden on our military and u.s. taxpayers to fulfill what is an international mission and not what is a u.s. mission. >> mr. president, can i ask you, i will ask you in english, i'd like you to answer to the response that the president gave regarding the wounds that linger in this country and the needs that some of the people in this country -- for assistance in any investigations that are still
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ongoing here. >> translator: 40 years ago, we had a long and profound conversation with president obama. we didn't have much time to cover all of the issues of the future. we didn't go so back into the past. but i can tell you that chile, our government, and this president, believes, firmly believes, in the self-determination of peoples and firmly believes in the rule of law and respect for human rights. for that reason, when we had evidence that in the case of president -- there could have been a homicide, our government submitted a claim, a complaint to it, collaborating to investigate those responsible for the death of the former
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president. once the ju dash yediciary asce they have to assume the punishment according to rule of law. we don't have the same basis but if we had them, we would act exactly the same way. and -- or the same presumptions -- and i would like to say, finally, that today, the subject of democracy, of human rights, has no borders, does not recognize any border, and that is progress of this 21st century civilization. and that is why chile supports the initiative of the united nations through it's security council, nato, and the arab league to do all that is possible to end, true carnage, killing of civilians in libya. and i think that is a responsibility of the
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international community, because, as i said a while ago, human rights do not, and should not, respect boarders. the responsibility is of all of us in each and every place of the world. whatever the circumstances invoked to violate human rights. and in my view, a person that has bombarded his own people does not deserve to keep on being the ruler of that people. the last question of this conference will be from spain. >> -- to take advantage and -- >> are you a lawyer or a journalist? >> well, i like to be precise. on libya, when you say that you will be transferring command,
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when are you thinking of transferring command? and would nato be the preferred partner to take over that command? and the second part of that question is, you have said that you want an alliance among equals of the peoples of america. what are you -- [ speaking foreign language ] >> with respect tos libto libya evolving on the ground. the recommendations of our commanding officers, that the mission has been completed, the first phase of the mission has been completed, as i said, our initial focus is taking out
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libyan air defenses so that a no-fly zone can operate effectively and aircraft and pilots of the coalition are not threatened when they're maintaining the no-fly zone. the second aspect of this is making sure that the humanitarian aspects of the mission can be met. but let me emphasize that we anticipate this transition to take place in a mat or of days and not a matter of weeks. and so i would expect that, you know, over the next several days, we'll have more information and the pentagon will be fully briefing the american people as well as the press on that issue. nato will be involved in a coornating function, because of the extraordinary capacity of ta
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alliance. but lie leave it to admiral mullen and those who are directly involved in the operation to describe to you how exactly that transfer might be -- might take place. with respect to this new partnership, i don't want to give you all of the best lines from my speech, otherwise no one will come, but the thing that i'm most excited about is the fact that in a country like chile, it's not just a matter of what we can give to chile, it's also a matter of what chile can offer us. chile has done some very interesting work around clean energy. so we set up a clean energy partnership. we think we're doing terrific work on alternative energy
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sources. but there may be initiatives taking place near chile that might be transferrable to the united states. on education, obviously, we have a long history of public education and our universities, i think, are second to none, but we want to make sure that in this increasingly integrated world, american students aren't just looking inwards, we're also looking outwards. and so the idea of us setting up a broad-based exchange program with the americas, i think, makes an enormous difference. security cooperation, you know, the plague of nar cotrafficers in the region is something that we're too familiar with. obviously we have the example of colombia that has made great strides in bringing security to a country that had been ravaged by drug wars.
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what lessons can we take and then apply them to smaller countries in central america, for example, going through the same struggles? for chile, the united states, colombia, other countries, to work in concert to help to train traintrai effective security operations in central america to deal with narco traffickers is a kind of collaboration that would not be as effective if the united states were operating on its own. so i think across the spectrum of issues that we care about deeply and that chile care about deeply, what will characterize this new partnership is the fact that it's a two-way street. you know, this is not just a situation where a highly developed country is helping a
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poor and impoverrished country. it's a situation where an up and coming regional power that has a strong voice in international affairs is now collaborating with us to hopefully help a greater peace and prosperity for the people in the world. >> translator: no doubt that insofar as integration of the americas, we are lagging behind. and the best way to illustrate this is to compare what has happened in america with what happened in europe. last century, the europeans had two world wars that with a toll of more than 70 million casualties. but at some point, they had the wisdom, the courage, to abandon the rational of -- with the
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leadership of such renounced statesman like housman, truman, they began to bill what today we know of as european union. and in america, we are much behind that. in america, 20 years ago, president bush's father raised the idea of a free trade area from alaska to ireland, generating a lot of enthusiasm in the region but it never came to, never materialized. so the time is right now because latin america has been, for too long the continent of hope for the future. a continent cannot be a promise forever. so we are of age now and need to fulfill our mission. therefore, the main task of

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